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Not sure 'Fun with Language' is the right forum for such an annoying phrase. What happened to 'now' or 'henceforth'? Anyone know the origin of 'moving forward'?
| | | | Ty Kendall
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| Not sure about the origin, but... | Mar 19, 2012 |
"Moving forward: As an adverbial meaning "from now on; in the future as distinct from the past", going forward seems somewhat commoner than moving forward. And on 1/2/2009, Toni Monkovic identified "going foward" as her "pick for cliche of 2009″ in football, using the criteria that is has to be "essentially meaningless, exhaustively overused, and I have to really really hate it", thus validating Scott Adams' ear for irritants."
http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=1768
| | | | Ty Kendall
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| Also love this quote... | Mar 19, 2012 |
When someone says 'going forward' it assaults the ears just as, when a colleague starts slurping French onion soup at a neighbouring desk, it assaults the nose.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7453584.stm
| | | | XXXphxxx (X)
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TOPIC STARTER | Excellent cartoon | Mar 19, 2012 |
Ty Kendall wrote:
"Moving forward: As an adverbial meaning "from now on; in the future as distinct from the past", going forward seems somewhat commoner than moving forward. And on 1/2/2009, Toni Monkovic identified "going foward" as her "pick for cliche of 2009″ in football, using the criteria that is has to be "essentially meaningless, exhaustively overused, and I have to really really hate it", thus validating Scott Adams' ear for irritants."
http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=1768
So, is it an Americanism? 'Going forward' sounds MARGINALLY more familiar and acceptable to me. Is it a corruption of that phrase? I just got an email from an agency that used 'Moving forward' as their opening line. Guess what came next? Extending payment terms, automating invoicing etc etc. I didn't read further - it went in the bin - the use of 'moving forward' probably being a greater crime in my book than the extending payment terms.
O/T: Everytime I try to use bold everything becomes bold. Ty, you're good at this. What am I doing wrong?
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Ty Kendall
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TOPIC STARTER | 'Going forward' | Mar 19, 2012 |
Okay, I take that back straight away now that I see it in print. It's just as bad.
| | | | Ty Kendall
United Kingdom
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| Bolding things | Mar 19, 2012 |
Basically you have to put < b > at the beginning of anything you make bold, but don't forget to close it with < /b >.
*Only without the spaces, I had to put them in otherwise it wouldn't display them properly.
| | | | XXXphxxx (X)
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TOPIC STARTER | Let's have a go | Mar 19, 2012 |
The Wordsworth article is nonsense. He's not using it as an adverb.
P.S. See Ty, my bold never ends. Once I open it the rest of it all turns to bold.
[Edited at 2012-03-19 10:46 GMT]
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Ty Kendall
United Kingdom
Local time: 01:51
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Mine only ever does that when I forget to put < /b > at the end of what I want to bold.
So, for example
I want to bold this.
Send me a copy of what you are writing, including the code, cut and paste onto an email if you want....
| | | | XXXphxxx (X)
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TOPIC STARTER | Nope still not working | Mar 19, 2012 |
Here we go again: no bold, bold, no bold.
Thank you Ty
[Edited at 2012-03-19 10:34 GMT]
| | | | Ty Kendall
United Kingdom
Local time: 01:51
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| Seems to have worked! | Mar 19, 2012 |
Now, moving forward...... .....
| | | | XXXphxxx (X)
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TOPIC STARTER | Trying to sound oh-so-terribly important | Mar 19, 2012 |
People don't actually speak (just practising) like that do they? Isn't it all part of some poncey notion of corporate-speak, which has more to do with Katie Price than anything else?
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"Going forward" or "moving forward" may possibly be of American origin, but it's a still-popular piece of modish Blairspeak.
"New Labour" was forever promising "to roll out a whole new raft of measures going forward" - as opposed to rolling the raft out backwards, I suppose.
Ugh!
Jenny
| | | | Ty Kendall
United Kingdom
Local time: 01:51
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| Unfortunately I think they do... | Mar 19, 2012 |
When I was still a banker, I used to cringe in meetings when this kind of managementese raised its ugly head. "Moving forward" wasn't even one of the worse things I heard, I can't remember any off-hand, I've tried my best to erase them all from memory.
Fortunately though the stigma is such that is you were to utter one of these phrases outside the boardroom, people will think *twerp*.
Coincidentally, the new series of "The Apprentice" starts this week, it's total... See more When I was still a banker, I used to cringe in meetings when this kind of managementese raised its ugly head. "Moving forward" wasn't even one of the worse things I heard, I can't remember any off-hand, I've tried my best to erase them all from memory.
Fortunately though the stigma is such that is you were to utter one of these phrases outside the boardroom, people will think *twerp*.
Coincidentally, the new series of "The Apprentice" starts this week, it's total car-crash TV, but a gold-mine of ridiculous corporate language use.
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| | | | XXXphxxx (X)
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TOPIC STARTER | Blame the politicians | Mar 19, 2012 |
I remember my translation teacher weeping at John Major's "As of now". I can't say I've noticed it recently. Has it become so embedded in our language as to have become imperceptible or did it come and go? Can we hold out the same hope for 'moving/going forward'?
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