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Someone is posing as me
Thread poster: Helen Genevier
Lingua 5B
Lingua 5B  Identity Verified
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Department for Internet frauds Apr 4, 2011

Helen Genevier wrote:

I am trying to find how to contact yahoo about identity theft, to close the account, as Theo suggested, though haven't yet found how to do this. I am also trying to find out which French police department might deal with this kind of case (fraudulent use of personal and business identity).



There's supposed to be a police department specializing in Internet frauds.

You should first contact your local branch, of course.


 
Signe Golly
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get their information before getting the email account closed Apr 4, 2011

Seems to me that if you want to "catch" this person, you will need to get their real information (bank details or whatever), presumably from the agency working with them, before you contact yahoo to get their account closed. Once that happens, they might just run because they've obviously been found out. They might not be your problem anymore but they'll be on to the next scam and the next person will have to start from scratch trying to sort of the mess.

 
Lingua 5B
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This very thread is connected to Google Apr 4, 2011

Signe Golly wrote:

Seems to me that if you want to "catch" this person, you will need to get their real information (bank details or whatever), presumably from the agency working with them, before you contact yahoo to get their account closed. Once that happens, they might just run because they've obviously been found out. They might not be your problem anymore but they'll be on to the next scam and the next person will have to start from scratch trying to sort of the mess.


so they may already see they have been caught and run away.

Hopefully the police department specializing in Internet crime has better systems to track them down, than those that we already know or imagine.

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Helen Genevier
Helen Genevier  Identity Verified
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Reported Apr 4, 2011

I have reported it to the police and to yahoo. The police may not be able to identify the person, but I would be covered against any claims resulting from bad translations done in my name. The agent already challenged them by email this morning, so I imagine they have taken on a different identity already. The police advised me to put a warning about this on my site and profile.

 
Marinus Vesseur
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Nothing much you can do.. Apr 4, 2011

..so consider it flattery and make the best of it. You are getting a lot of free advertising at the moment

Similar cases started popping up a few years ago; I noticed because it concerned someone I personally knew by the name of Nicole Schmidt. They copied her entire cv and used a non-existant address in Germany to make it look as real as possible. Anyone who speaks German would have noticed that the name used is alter
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..so consider it flattery and make the best of it. You are getting a lot of free advertising at the moment

Similar cases started popping up a few years ago; I noticed because it concerned someone I personally knew by the name of Nicole Schmidt. They copied her entire cv and used a non-existant address in Germany to make it look as real as possible. Anyone who speaks German would have noticed that the name used is alternately Schmid and Schmidt, so that gives it away a little bit.

At the time I was curious as to how the scheme would work, so I posed as a client and had the fake NS translate a small piece for me. It came back relatively quickly and in good quality (too bad for the colleague that was probably scammed), with an invoice without address, to be paid via Paypal. I responded with a request for a proper invoice, which came, but with the non-existant German address on it. No bank details. I wrote back to point out the wrong address, got one reminder and that was it. I got the impression that e-mail correspondence came from Hong Kong, but I can't remember why.

Which is the reason I wouldn't worry about it too much. If Paypal is the only means of acceptable payment, they won't get far. Very unlikely that they would grab any of your clients. Since they are mass-mailing all translation agencies they can get the e-mail address of, it might possibly be a good idea to do one mass mailing yourself to rectify matters. Who knows that something good may come off it.

All the best!
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Steven Capsuto
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What are the odds Apr 4, 2011

Lingua 5B wrote:

What are the odds of this person having the identical name as she and offering the identical services?


I know two Argentine women with the same first name and same last name who work for competing translation agencies that are based in the same U.S. state. And it's a moderately uncommon name.

So these things can happen.


 
Katalin Horváth McClure
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What to disclose and what not Apr 5, 2011

Helen, why do you publicize your DOB and other personal info on your CV?
It is very dangerous, IMHO.
Katalin


 
Helen Shiner
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Impersonation Apr 5, 2011

I am also being impersonated by the same person. I have reported it to Proz.com but two days later, I am still waiting to hear from them.

I will not give details here but suffice it to say that he/she has a profile on Proz.com apparently verified and, worse still, posted a job via the Jobs Board asking for replies to the e-mail address Helen mentions. I have sent these links to Helen privately.

I am hoping that Proz.com is doing something about it. My main concern is t
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I am also being impersonated by the same person. I have reported it to Proz.com but two days later, I am still waiting to hear from them.

I will not give details here but suffice it to say that he/she has a profile on Proz.com apparently verified and, worse still, posted a job via the Jobs Board asking for replies to the e-mail address Helen mentions. I have sent these links to Helen privately.

I am hoping that Proz.com is doing something about it. My main concern is that someone out there is doing a largeish project for this fake person for which I presume they stand little chance of being paid.
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Phoebe Indetzki
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Please don't!!!!! Apr 21, 2011

[quote]Jeff Whittaker wrote:

I would find a very large file on the internet (50,000 words +), create my own free e-mail address and send this impostor a translation job. After she (or he) delivers the project, you can send them a letter from the "agency" informing them: Sorry, the real Helen already delivered the project two days ago.



PLEASE don't any one do this!! You don't believe these scoundrels really translate a single word themselves, do you? They pass it on to suckers like me who do all the work and then never see a penny for it!


 
Melanie Hoffman
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I did a job supposedly for you May 9, 2011

Dear Helen,

I took on a job, which was posted here on Proz.com.
Your email was given as contact address.
A person calling herself "Jaana Petersen" then gave me the job, and I am really upset, because I did the job, and sent it back, got a confirmation.
The next day, both your 'helengenevier@rocketmail.com' address + the additional address for jaana petersen: Jaana Petersen [jaanapeter@ymail.com]
come back as non-existent.
This was on the 01 - 04. A
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Dear Helen,

I took on a job, which was posted here on Proz.com.
Your email was given as contact address.
A person calling herself "Jaana Petersen" then gave me the job, and I am really upset, because I did the job, and sent it back, got a confirmation.
The next day, both your 'helengenevier@rocketmail.com' address + the additional address for jaana petersen: Jaana Petersen [jaanapeter@ymail.com]
come back as non-existent.
This was on the 01 - 04. April.
The job was posted here! So someone not only used your email address to receive applications but also logged in as you on proz?
How is that possible?
I feel terrible because I spent a weekend on this psychology job, not nice to be used like this..
Do you have any idea what this could be about or who Jaana Petersen is?
Regards
Melanie Hoffman
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Helen Genevier
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So far 2 translators have contacted me to say they did the job May 9, 2011

Melanie, I'm really sorry to hear the person swindled you. Another translator has contacted me to say she did the same job without being paid. I would just like to point out that helengenevier@rocketmail.com is NOT my address, the crook just borrowed my name to create a free e-mail account. There is no evidence that the person logged on as me. I will PM you with more details, because I believe enough is known about this person for ... See more
Melanie, I'm really sorry to hear the person swindled you. Another translator has contacted me to say she did the same job without being paid. I would just like to point out that helengenevier@rocketmail.com is NOT my address, the crook just borrowed my name to create a free e-mail account. There is no evidence that the person logged on as me. I will PM you with more details, because I believe enough is known about this person for the police to trace them.Collapse


 
Ramey Rieger (X)
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Jaana Petersen May 19, 2011

This is the same name used to cheat me as well! Was the translation for Dr. Weißbach? How many translations has the same name asked for? How can she/he be found? I'm really soory to hear I wasn't the only one cheated!

Regards,
Ramey


 
Helen Genevier
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Chinese IP address May 19, 2011

Ramey Rieger wrote:

This is the same name used to cheat me as well! Was the translation for Dr. Weißbach? How many translations has the same name asked for? How can she/he be found? I'm really soory to hear I wasn't the only one cheated!

Regards,
Ramey


The person's IP address is in Beijing, China. This was corroborated by their profile in that it claimed to be in Scotland yet showed GMT+8. PM me if you want more details. They posted a DE>EN 4000-word psychology job on proz on 02 April 2011 using that profile. You will have to contact the other 2 who were swindled to find who the end client was.


 
Natalie
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Hi all Jul 26, 2011

Has anyone contacted site staff providing them email addresses and IPs? Folks, discussing this in the forums doesn't help much. In the meantime, the scammer could be effectively blocked with your help, but if you haven't told the staff, he keeps fooling people.

Natalia


 
Helen Genevier
Helen Genevier  Identity Verified
France
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Yes Jul 26, 2011

Natalie wrote:

Has anyone contacted site staff providing them email addresses and IPs? Folks, discussing this in the forums doesn't help much. In the meantime, the scammer could be effectively blocked with your help, but if you haven't told the staff, he keeps fooling people.

Natalia


Hi Natalia,
Yes the proZ staff were informed and acted straight away.


 
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